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Post by Festooned Piglips on Dec 31, 2007 20:18:49 GMT -5
Sorry Dr. Brown, I believe Piglips will do just fine! And besides, she has more experience with this fine art. Oh come on, you can`t be for real! Anytime someone on a message board goes with the tired old "You`re gay" sort of retaliation (the likes of which you`ve done with your circle jerk posts) shows an utter lack of imagination and skill. What`s your beef with me anyway...jealousy? (Hey, ANYTHING to get his mind off of circle jerking!) |
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Post by Dr Brown on Dec 31, 2007 22:23:25 GMT -5
Festooned Piglips, I think that what EIO is trying to make out is that we are a woman! Pur  |
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Post by Voice of Reason on Jan 1, 2008 3:35:37 GMT -5
Isn't it a fact that there is an ex-Bluecheer Guitarist that likes to dress in drag?
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Post by Festooned Piglips on Jan 1, 2008 9:03:09 GMT -5
Funny thing....why does Randy holden draw such venom from supposedly Blue Cheer fans? I mean, ya got Gyspyball making blogs about me, eio posting endlessly about being involved in a circle jerk (and not making any posts whatsoever about the band!) and now I`m accused of being a woman  Again, all I can think of is that it boils down to pure, inbridled JEALOUSY!!! |
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Post by Festooned Piglips on Jan 1, 2008 10:17:21 GMT -5
Well, which is it...am I the bass player in Randys recent video, or a woman?!
And, if I am a woman, who do you think I am?
Furthermore, if you saw Blue Cheer in 68/69, that would put you @ at least 50 years old.
Don`t you think that`s a little creepy to be that age, making references to circle jerks, and supposedly arguing with a woman online?
And lastly, I have never poked fun at Randy Holden.
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Post by wholelottashakin on Jan 1, 2008 12:50:13 GMT -5
And lastly, I have never poked fun at Randy Holden. * *By your presence on the Blue Cheer BB you do just that. * No more annoying, arrogant, ignorant, irksome, silly, wasteful, vain, bothersome, STUPID, pile of pestilence has plagued this BB in all time as do you in behalf of the worlds second most lame excuse for a genuine musician ... your god, randy holden. * *When all is said and done, many years hence, Dickie Peterson and Blue Cheer will still be regarded as one-of-a kind genuine musical genius well ahead of their time; and randy will be an 'also ran' who played on one side of one album and based on that small appearance attempted to steal that which belongs to another - embarressing himself by proclaiming coast to coast that *he* is blue cheer. randy, nor you have not the barest beginning of a concept of what Blue Cheer is ... you don't get it, you can't get you ... the others on this BB do and are and we are telling you in funny ways, in educated ways, in uneducated ways, in kind ways and unkind ways ... we don't want you here because we are not in the least bit interested in one thing you have to say unless it is good-bye. * *Your continued banal postings on another bands BB only affirms the worst one can possibly think of your very little "g" god. * *I knew a man once who sat himself in the seat of his neighbors automobile, put the key in the ignition, turned the engine over and became so delighted with his 'accomplishment' that he proclaimed to the entire world that HE invented the automobile. He said it so often that one fine day he paid a lackey to sit in the passenger seat of 'his invention' ... the lackey was so overjoyed to find another asshole as stupid and as egotistical as himself that he cast a golden idol, kissed its ass and continued to do so every day for the rest of his life. When last seen, the two of them were standing in front of a cracked mirror reciting their litany and thinking the reflected image was an approving audience. * *How many times and how many ways do the people on this BLUE CHEER BB have to say it - *YOU ARE BORING, boring, boring, boring. You think we object to you out of JEALOUSY? You ignorant ass ... this is BLUE CHEER public forum and you don't belong here. GET IT? * *GET IT? *or is your head so far up your ass all you can see is randy's lips? |
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Post by wholelottashakin on Jan 1, 2008 13:01:53 GMT -5
THE FOLLOWING REALLY SHOULD PUT AN END TO THE randy discussion and hopefully send fp to plague his poor wife or broom or whatever he does when he is not trying to be who he can never be ... the BLUE CHEER bassist !
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*The following is quoted word for word is the old time Blue Cheer Web site, back in the day when Dickie posted Newsletters ... (find it in the Archives section)
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*. . . Dickie Peterson (04.10.2004)
Hey gang, The Angel thought I might write a little bit about this subject that's been jumping around the HomePage, Internet, Chat Room and so on. I will do my best to give you some insight into my take on this Randy / BC thing.
First off let me say here and now that I have always considered Randy a friend and still do. He has never given me reason to think otherwise. I have a great deal of respect for his abilities as a player, writer and bandleader. I wanted to say these personal things to help you understand that there is nothing personal between the two of us that keeps us from playing together. It’s more of a fundamental approach to music that makes it an incompatible situation.
Randy has an ability to write a song in a conceptual manner that has every note, word and movement pre-arranged in his head and the development of that song depends totally on Randy’s concept. This is a skill that I admire and envy to a degree. However, it is not nor has it ever been a BC trait except on the 3 songs we recorded for Randy. I say for Randy because it is a demonstration of how we felt working with him on songs, we didn't feel a part of our own band or our own music because we play different music in a different way than he plays.
In the beginning, Paul and I loved Randy's playing and thought he could add a great deal to the over-all concept of what we were doing. And as long as we were playing the already recorded songs it was fine. We rehearsed for the Shake-Down Tour with Randy and things were a little strange to us because we kept going over the same solos and such when in fact that is not the Cheer concept. I read an interview with Randy where he said we didn't rehearse enough and by normal band standards he's probably right, but BC ain't normal and never has been and never will be. Sorry 'bout that but we have always been renegades and it's been too long to be expected in any other manner for us. Paul and I passed the point of no return long ago. Unfortunately for all concerned when we started to work on the recording of the 3rd LP shit just fell apart because there was no longer room for Paul and I in the songs written by Randy. And we did not work up to that point to have some guy come in and totally turn our concept around because it was his song. It might be your song but in this band you do it BC style. Well, Randy couldn't live with that and we couldn't live with his style. There never was anything on any other level that broke up that line up.
Paul and I have had a few guitarists most of which never did pick up on what we were doing. Tony Rainier did so, Duck does and so does Randy - he just don't like it and that's fair enough cause I don't like his style (for me) either.
When I present a song to my band I give them some chords and some words and some rhythm. I jam around with Paul on the main riff and let him sort out his own approach to the riff. I may have to change what I am doing a bit, in BC you got to have lateral movement or you're dead, solos, intros, exits, modulation, time changes and every thing else involved with a song is talked about: like, "Hey Duck, where you want the solo ? Before the bridge or after ?"
You see, i won't tell my band what to play, it defeats the whole purpose for us. Hell, if i have to tell a guitarist what to play i don't need him. As far as Paul goes the main rule is to let him roam free through the early stages of a songs development. That’s when he is his best. He’s a very undisciplined drummer and has developed in that way. Some people would say ". . . developed some bad habits", and i guess in some ways that would be true for both he and i. But to be sure Paul will go places most drummers wouldn't even dream of. He’s not afraid to take the risks to create the unusual.
If you box him in too early all you're going to get is a back beat in the drums. You'll lose the real savage animal that beats his drums into submission. We developed this style by trial and error, that tells you why we won't change it to suit Randy or Hendrix or any other person anywhere no matter who they are. First and foremost reason for our style is that every one of the players has a personal investment in the music. It becomes a part of him; it has his attitude, his essence, it makes the relationship of the song and the player intimate and even sexual.
No, we are not guys that have sex with each other at rehearsals, that’s not what I am talking about. It is the erotic edge that is not spoken that is in the song or the rage or fear or what ever emotion it is that that player is experiencing that matters in the music to us. I don't care what note you hit just hit the right one. I once had a guitarist that asked me "What do you want me to play during my solo ?" I said "I don't care what you play as long as you make it good". "Ya, but . . .", "Look kid, your job then is to blow my mind with that guitar, I can't tell you how. Only you know that because it's in you not me. I give you solid bass with lots of room to blow, what you do with it is on you. Play like a team and we will blow everybody's mind, Kid. Just play, stop thinking about it so much". Kid was good that night and did blow my mind.
So, there you have it, basic fundamental musical styles that are in conflict with one another. No one is no better or worse than the other they are just different like red and blue, both are good colors but blue will not be red and red will not be blue.
Would I ever record with Randy ? I can't say for sure because nobody can predict the future. I don't know what I will say or do until the time gets here just like you don't know what would happen if you were crossing the street and a car loses control and comes right at you. Maybe you would run. Maybe you would freeze. Maybe you would jump right over it.
Right now I think: "Ya, I would do that", but - for the reasons I already mentioned about our style differences - I can't see that Randy would be willing to play in the Blue Cheer style so I have to say not in a Blue Cheer line-up, like I won't play with he and I and Paul on the same record because Blue Cheer has a guitarist in Duck and he is able to work with our concepts and now really has a good time because the musical doors are not just open they have been kicked off the hinges.
Well, I hope that cleared some things up, hope I didn't piss anyone off, and to Randy I say - respect brother.
And to you 1% I loves ya and will be yeelin' back at you soon.
Dickie
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Post by rowenafaire on Jan 1, 2008 18:40:05 GMT -5
VERY good WLS, the nail on the head! and if you look at the date this has obviously been going on about 3 years too long!!! RIP this issue as far as i'm concerned...
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Post by Festooned Piglips on Jan 1, 2008 20:08:10 GMT -5
And lastly, I have never poked fun at Randy Holden. * *By your presence on the Blue Cheer BB you do just that. * No more annoying, arrogant, ignorant, irksome, silly, wasteful, vain, bothersome, STUPID, pile of pestilence has plagued this BB in all time as do you in behalf of the worlds second most lame excuse for a genuine musician ... your god, randy holden. * *When all is said and done, many years hence, Dickie Peterson and Blue Cheer will still be regarded as one-of-a kind genuine musical genius well ahead of their time; and randy will be an 'also ran' who played on one side of one album and based on that small appearance attempted to steal that which belongs to another - embarressing himself by proclaiming coast to coast that *he* is blue cheer. randy, nor you have not the barest beginning of a concept of what Blue Cheer is ... you don't get it, you can't get you ... the others on this BB do and are and we are telling you in funny ways, in educated ways, in uneducated ways, in kind ways and unkind ways ... we don't want you here because we are not in the least bit interested in one thing you have to say unless it is good-bye. * *Your continued banal postings on another bands BB only affirms the worst one can possibly think of your very little "g" god. * *I knew a man once who sat himself in the seat of his neighbors automobile, put the key in the ignition, turned the engine over and became so delighted with his 'accomplishment' that he proclaimed to the entire world that HE invented the automobile. He said it so often that one fine day he paid a lackey to sit in the passenger seat of 'his invention' ... the lackey was so overjoyed to find another asshole as stupid and as egotistical as himself that he cast a golden idol, kissed its ass and continued to do so every day for the rest of his life. When last seen, the two of them were standing in front of a cracked mirror reciting their litany and thinking the reflected image was an approving audience. * *How many times and how many ways do the people on this BLUE CHEER BB have to say it - *YOU ARE BORING, boring, boring, boring. You think we object to you out of JEALOUSY? You ignorant ass ... this is BLUE CHEER public forum and you don't belong here. GET IT? * *GET IT? *or is your head so far up your ass all you can see is randy's lips? Wow, tell us what you really think  By the way, that I`m on another BB is news to me...tell me, what board is it? |
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Post by Festooned Piglips on Jan 1, 2008 20:11:40 GMT -5
It`s funny how you say I`m boring, yet I`ve garnered more response (Gyspballs blog, eio rants and now yours) than anyone else on here.
Can`t be but so boring, eh?
I mean, why spend alot of time on someone who`s boring, except........
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Post by wholelottashakin on Jan 1, 2008 21:11:38 GMT -5
A bit of press on the Cheer:
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*Blue Cheer Return With New Album and Tour Dates
posted Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 12:31:46 AM by deathbringer. (thanks LiveDaily.com)
LiveDaily.com reports: Heavy-rock dinosaurs Blue Cheer have mapped out a headlining tour beginning in late January to support their first studio album in more than 10 years. The veteran band, which forged its reputation in the San Francisco psychedelic music scene of the late '60s, will launch its run Jan. 26 in Oklahoma City, OK, the first of 15 dates currently on the group's calendar.
The trio retains two of its original members, with singer/bassist Dickie Peterson and drummer Paul Whaley joined by Duck McDonald, who joined the band in the late '80s.
Blue Cheer's latest release, "What Doesn't Kill You," hit stores in August, representing the group's first studio work since 1990's "Highlights & Low Lives," which was released in Europe and Japan but not in the US.
The latest Blue Cheer tour dates are as follows:
January 26 – Oklahoma City, OK - The Conservatory
January 28 – Albuquerque, NM - Launchpad
January 30 – Tucson, AZ - Club Congress
January 31 – Phoenix, AZ - The Rhythm Room
February 1 – San Diego, CA - Casbah
February 2 – Malibu, CA - Malibu Inn
February 3 – San Juan Capistrano, CA - The Coach House
February 5 – Los Angeles, CA - The Knitting Factory
February 6 – San Luis Obispo, CA - Downtown Brew
February 7 – San Francisco, CA - Red Devil Lounge
February 8 – Santa Rosa, CA - Last Day Saloon
February 11 – McKinleyville, CA - Six Rivers Brewery
February 13 – Seattle, WA - El Corazon
February 15 – Portland, OR - Dante's
February 16 – Eugene, OR - John Henry’s
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Post by A Voice Of Reason on Jan 1, 2008 21:58:21 GMT -5
A bit of press on the Cheer:* *Blue Cheer Return With New Album and Tour Dates posted Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 12:31:46 AM by deathbringer. (thanks LiveDaily.com) Blue Cheer's latest release, "What Doesn't Kill You," hit stores in August, representing the group's first studio work since 1990's "Highlights & Low Lives," which was released in Europe and Japan but not in the US. Uhhh, what about "Dining With The Sharks", which was released around 1992/93? If you're going to cut and paste information, at least make sure it's correct! I love how history tries to rewrite itself, and in the case of Blue Cheer, has basically written the work of Dieter Saller out of the picture, despite the fact that he played on the Dining album, did several European tours with them while spending nearly 3 years with the band. Sorry, but Duck has not been their guitarist for 17 years total, and it's high time this information is better known! |
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Post by wholelottashakin on Jan 1, 2008 22:28:14 GMT -5
A bit of press on the Cheer:* *Blue Cheer Return With New Album and Tour Dates posted Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 12:31:46 AM by deathbringer. (thanks LiveDaily.com) Blue Cheer's latest release, "What Doesn't Kill You," hit stores in August, representing the group's first studio work since 1990's "Highlights & Low Lives," which was released in Europe and Japan but not in the US. Uhhh, what about "Dining With The Sharks", which was released around 1992/93? ! * *Quite right you are concerning the Dining With the Sharks release and lack of mention ... might I suggest you point this out to the person who wrote the blog? No attitude here at all in that remark. As for Didi ... well, then, start the thread and give us some facts, antidotes, etc. I am sure it will be interesting and appreciated. |
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Post by riffraff on Jan 2, 2008 21:23:07 GMT -5
The second to last time, I talked with Dickie, he became very irritated with any discussion of Randy Holden. As posted by WLS it is not out of disrespect. Holden is legend to a small group of fans. Everytime his name comes up, it is a distraction to the fact that Blue Cheer is mounting a formidable comeback ..... without Randy. Dickie is doing a magnificent job (at 61?) playing small to medium gigs and touching the fans in an intimate surroundings with his music. He is fortunate to have Duck as a manager and Paul to come back to the fold. All this talk about Randy kinda shows lack of appreciation of the current efforts of the band to get out to the fans. Now I know the 1% don't fall into this group. However, FP is using the dead air time to poorly promote Randy, which really is not needed. One solution is to have more discussion of Blue Cheer's new album and their gigs. Dunno if new members are intimidated and reluctant to post. My god, I hope we get a lot of new postings from the fans out in Arizona and California in the next few months. It is 2008 now, not 1968. Dickie knows it, Randy knows it ..we all know it. Be happy with the current line up ...they rock! But it won't last forever. Don't f... with the chemistry of the band. Be glad they are around....in your town...
(p.s.... FP should make a new years resolution to stop wasting so much time posting on this board and get back to finishing the remixing which has delayed RH from releasing final remastered versions of his past material and getting on to the business of the new material.)
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Post by FeedbackLourde on Jan 2, 2008 23:40:05 GMT -5
Could this actually be the Riffraff we all know and love to torment!? Or am I having another one of those telltale acid trips!? |
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