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Post by mikethedrummer on Nov 19, 2009 16:34:10 GMT -5
I just came across a bunch of awesome photos, color and B&W, of Blue Cheer live in Copenhagen in 1968 (possibly November 1?) taken by noted photographer Jan Perssons. Go to www.gettyimages.com and search on "Blue Cheer" - these pictures are near the bottom of page 5 and top of page 6 (at least that's where they showed up the times I searched). The only flaw (besides the watermark across each picture) is that Randy is misidentified as Leigh. |
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Post by gypsyball on Nov 19, 2009 17:39:37 GMT -5
I just came across a bunch of awesome photos, color and B&W, of Blue Cheer live in Copenhagen in 1968 (possibly November 1?) taken by noted photographer Jan Perssons. Go to www.gettyimages.com and search on "Blue Cheer" - these pictures are near the bottom of page 5 and top of page 6 (at least that's where they showed up the times I searched). The only flaw (besides the watermark across each picture) is that Randy is misidentified as Leigh. I saw them when I did a Google search on Dickie Peterson. I do agree that water mark is rather annoying.l |
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Post by psychedelicteen on Nov 19, 2009 18:04:20 GMT -5
That's funny though, you'd think that BC never had any other guitarist other than Leigh because of all the misconceptions and mis-identifications.
Speaking of, and I'm embarrassed to ask this since I should know by now, but why did Leigh leave BC?
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Post by FeedbackLourde on Nov 19, 2009 18:17:53 GMT -5
::)Leigh left Blue Cheer because he was much taller than Dickie and Paul and felt very self-conscious everytime he went on stage with them....
Thanks for the heads-up Mike. It's amazing all ther stuff that is suddenly coming out in the last month. I'm guessing that the Steve Allen footage will show up on youtube any day now! ;D
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Post by gypsyball on Nov 19, 2009 19:08:52 GMT -5
::)Leigh left Blue Cheer because he was much taller than Dickie and Paul and felt very self-conscious everytime he went on stage with them.... ::)If that was the reason, then why did pick Holden to replace Leigh? Holden was a lot taller too.  |
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Post by featheredfish on Nov 19, 2009 19:24:09 GMT -5
Leigh was sacked, because he didn`t like to party and take drugs after shows, but rather preferred to avoid substances and enjoyed reality and spending his money on `fast cars and things` whereas Holden played every night in other bands for three years and could only keep going because of amphetamines and the like, and so they wanted a guitarist who enjoyed life like they enjoyed life. Allegedly!!!!
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Post by rowenafair on Nov 20, 2009 2:24:23 GMT -5
been here, done that i know, but here we go...it has ALSO been said that leigh left - before he got sacked maybe - because of musical and personal differences. which is why most people leave bands i guess. "they grew apart"
the one thing everyone seems to agree on except the press is that he did NOT leave because he went deaf!!
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Post by rowenafair on Nov 20, 2009 2:38:54 GMT -5
those are some great pictures...its funny that even though they have pics of leigh and randy they didn't see it was two different guys. oh weel...i guess tall with long darkish hair could be anyone, right?
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Post by ericalbronda on Nov 20, 2009 3:05:56 GMT -5
Leigh Left blue cheer because Paul asked him to leave when he had something else set up----I left with him at this point and Jerry Russell myself and Doug Tracy split into three parts ---musically management team---Me, Leigh (England ) before given to Charlie Osborne in LA)Jerry Russell- yoder ,Whaley in La Whale Studios in Los Angeles Before Paul went to rest for 18 Months. Doug Tracy San francisco--Dickie , beginnings of Tower of Power before Bill Graham stole them away from Doug.
Musically Leigh was unpredictable which I thought was good but Paul found his job becoming harder because of Leigh's erratic playing , this was also true with Dickie-----Randy seemed to epitomise what whaley considered as a "Heavy Guitarist " with predictable licks and attitude and behavior. So whaley was mostly responsible for bringing Randy on Board the sinking ship---sinking because Mercury records was at this point well aware of the personal problems afflicting Dickie and Paul and really were having a difficult time rationalizing continuing to support this out of control machine -- sort of this way---Leigh and Eric smoked Pot along with Boug and our budget was maybe at most 65$ a month for this habit whereas Paul and Dickie and Jerry had at one time a budget of $4000 a week for their habits.Generally I do not like to discuss this issue because I find it boring but truth is important especially now that a lot of things are being bropught out----As I said the split was made easier in that it was no problem to secure Leigh another recording Contract and He and me wanted to go to England and record his solo album --took only about 2 months from start to Leigh Leaving for England ----In the meantime Randy was rehearsing ith Whaley and d made life much easier for them and Jerry russell and he did his job well and stayed out of Paul and Dickies business and the public was very confused at the time as to the addition of randy and the exit of Leigh------
Fbl is right that randy was taller than Leigh but he did not dress up in Ladies clothes like Jerry Russell and Dickie
The last straw came when Dickie refused to wear this little purple number that was like a skirt with Sequins and buttons all over it and the brown lipstick did not match Whaley'
s complexion --- so gender identity was a major source of confusion as pointed out by FBL Besides Leigh Liked Strawberry ice cream and Whaley liked Lychee nuts from the Chinese Resturant in Chicago
Oddly enough none went Deaf just gnder identity became an issue for some of us --except me naturally I always knew I loves woman but could love a man all the same at least spiritually.
I also always felt it was a huge mistake to break up the three pieces of Leigh Dickie and Paul with the mighty Pickle --just ask Janis and Linda Eastman--------
that is why Paul likes to be half naked sometimes when he shows uo late for the sets so and that is true folks unlike some kidding in this current response by Me. so a lot of this is repeat andf I am joking around but I do not mind repeating myself because I feel it is important to get the truth with humor out there especially now ------hope some of you don"t mind hearing this again .
Good day---
Eric , the Awful
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Post by featheredfish on Nov 20, 2009 3:39:23 GMT -5
Eric There was a female on this board a couple of years ago who was saying that she was Paul`s former English wife. Do you know if they had a son called Simon? There was a professional footballer in England not that long ago called Simon Whaley, and he was American first, but also born in England. I believe he is still playing so he could be in his early 30s at the very most.
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Post by ericalbronda on Nov 20, 2009 7:51:11 GMT -5
I do not know of any wife of Paul being British or a child ----now it is possible but I doubt it seriously.
Current estranged mother of Paul's daughter is the only marriage I am aware of ...................................
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Post by FeedbackLourde on Nov 20, 2009 10:52:44 GMT -5
its funny that even though they have pics of leigh and randy they didn't see it was two different guys. oh weel...i guess tall with long darkish hair could be anyone, right? Actually, Rowenafaire, I know a few folks who saw BC back at that time who walked away from the show thinking that they actually saw Leigh live instead of Randy. A lot of this confusion stemmed from the fact that Outsideinside had just been released and this lineup was sent out on the road without any general announcement of Leigh's departure. This was especially annoying to Randy (heard this directly from him) because he wanted Jerry Russell to bill the band as "BC featuring their new guitarist & leader, Randy Holden" which Jerry blatantly refused to do. To this day, Holden blames Jerry Russell for stifling his career and believes that he continues to attempt to even from the grave.... |
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Post by seniorwenches on Nov 20, 2009 12:22:27 GMT -5
Given the fact that Blue Cheer was formed by the genius level thinking of Jerry Russell--I am sure Jerry has much better things to do than even consider Randy Holden as a viable thought.
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Post by otherhalf on Nov 20, 2009 14:00:44 GMT -5
I think what you say is right FBL. The 1968 London gigs were advertised the press with pictures of Leigh and Outsideinside was “rush released” to coincide. I don’t recall any announcements/introductions from the band on stage at the gig I went to (odd that Randy didn‘t introduce himself if he was bothered about it) but it was obvious that the guitar sound was different. A superb gig, but as you say, a bit baffling. All was revealed in Melody Maker next week. I seem to remember seeing a USA poster for a gig of that period advertising Blue Cheer “with new special ingredient” or something along those lines.
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Post by terencebelcher on Nov 20, 2009 16:10:01 GMT -5
`New special ingredient`translating as `guitarist with bucket loads of ego`, no doubt.
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