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Post by mr maltese on Dec 4, 2006 16:31:37 GMT -5
I think there are illusions by the amount of amplifiers you use on stage as to equate with how much volume you have some times more amplifiers are used for the purpose to spread the sound on stage as opposed to getting more volume I’ve seen bands that had less amps on stage that were louder than the band that used more one example when I saw UFO open for Cheap Trick UFO had a wall of double headed Marshall stacks Cheap Trick used these Sound City cabinets (on Rick Nielson’s side) combined with Marshall heads and two Hiwatt stacks w/ two Hiwatt heads (on Robin Zander’s side) and they were way louder than UFO was
I think what really attributed to bands’ volume levels like Blue Cheer, The Who and Motorhead is the way their bass sounds were - very bottom heavy with distortion,…Entwhistle from the Who had that twangy kind of sound to his bass, Dickie in ‘68 used to go through Marshalls and had a distorted sound almost like a guitar and Lemmy with his Rickenbacker went through Marshalls and has a very “trebly” sound
From what I’ve heard Hendrix was pretty loud but not as much as BC ,TheWho or MC 5 I always heard he was at a tolerable level I couldn’t say myself I wasn’t there
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Post by babylon on Dec 4, 2006 20:41:51 GMT -5
"When I started listening to BC in 1968 I couldn't have given a rats ass how loud they played! I dug their sound..." I couldn't have said it better myself - when I first heard BC doing their cover of 'Summertime Blues' on a shitty car radio back in the day it was the way they played and the energy they brought to their sound that turned me on - not volume.
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Post by twfs on Dec 4, 2006 21:55:15 GMT -5
Hmmm
welll Cheer were pretty loud at Champs
as for others?
Gary Moore at the Roxy 1987, in la, LOUD!
LOUDNESS, at Joe's this year
Saw Motorhead open for Sabbath in 1995, but they were not that loud, then again it was a out door show.
Blue Murder in 1988, were loud too.
Other than that every other band I have ever seen was moderate, then again, I just might be going DEAF!!!!
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Post by mr maltese on Dec 4, 2006 22:03:17 GMT -5
Yeah, of course the music is always what is most important FIRST above all however, the power that this band has put out & the influence that they had on the many bands to have followed in their footsteps is a major part of what BC was all about
Now to me a prime example of a band that plays loud but their music has nothing to offer is Manowar - to me they're a horrible band
I want to make a small documentary on this subject and would like to have Blue Cheer be the feature band,....that's why I was trying to get a feeler on some others' top ten lists on this subject
I'm looking for some footage of vintage Deep Purple around '74 or '75 if anyone has anything by them around that period I'd like to make a trade
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The Common Denominator
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Post by The Common Denominator on Dec 4, 2006 22:31:19 GMT -5
Well, I'll throw my 2 1/2 cents in here. Yeah, volume may be "cool", but as a drummer, there is virtually nothing more annoying than a guitar player who insists on playing on 11. Let the soundman control the sound and volume that the audience hears, but for God's sakes, keep the volume at a reasonable level on the stage!
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Post by featheredfish on Dec 5, 2006 5:07:47 GMT -5
Lemmy was in the audience the night BC played the Roundhouse in London in 1968. He was playing with Sam Gopal (check out the album Escalator, classic british psych) in those days. Leigh Stephens was in the audience too.
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Post by sam on Dec 5, 2006 12:10:51 GMT -5
Blue Cheer has been the loudest and best band I have seen in person for a long time. AC/DC was pretty loud the last show of their's I saw. I always thought Humble Pie would have been a pretty loud band by the way "I Don't Need No Doctor" sounds on their Fillmore album.
Wasn't Manowar those loin cloth guys? Man, they were terrible. I went to high school with a guy who would fight you over them. He has since apologized for making us listen to them.
Sam
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Post by babylon on Dec 5, 2006 12:20:40 GMT -5
"Who is Lemmy? How does he fit in with BC? His name keeps coming up recently. I never saw his name on the BC web page". Lemmy is the bass player and lead singer of the legendary speed, thrash, head-banging British band 'Motorhead' which came roaring out onto the scene at 'The Roundhouse' in 1975. Motorhead was formed after Lemmy was kicked out of 'Hawkwind' for some 'substance issues.' Lemmy said of the Motorhead when they first came out: "They'll be the dirtiest rock'n'roll band in the world. If we moved in next door your lawn would die!" I think that says it all!!
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Post by R Dale on Dec 5, 2006 13:17:18 GMT -5
When Lemmy met Leigh Stevens at the infamous Roundhouse gig, Leigh told him that Blue Cheer got the idea of playing loud by watching Sam Gopal mic his congo drums through 27,000 fender twin reverb amps. Ever since then, Lemmy has always considered Blue Cheer to be his band and has proceeded to use their riffs in Motorhead tunes (listen to the Overkill album for reference). Those drugs that Lemmy got caught with while in Hawkwind were planted on him by Blue Cheer management in an effort to stop his musical endeavors.
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Post by mr maltese on Dec 5, 2006 13:19:01 GMT -5
Motorhead a band who in my opinion patterned itself (especially in its early days w/ Fast Eddie) in a similar spirit to Blue Cheer 1968 – although I think the styles of both bands are different – but in terms of attitude & power is where the similarities lie I think
The early Motorhead albums to me are more stoner rock...their material in the mid eighties became more headbanger...I met Lemmy several times in 1984,85 and later on in LA in '91 very cool guy,..but man he loved his vodka!
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Post by mr maltese on Dec 5, 2006 13:37:33 GMT -5
Sam I would love to see both Blue Cheer and AC/DC on the same bill I think that would be a great fit myself I saw Manowar open for Motorhead in 1988 they were horrible they were trying to steal Motorhead's thunder but it didn't work Motorhead blew them away,....Manowar dress like cavemen when they perform live they look totally ridiculous
R Dale I also heard that to convince a record company executive to sign Motorhead to a contract Lemmy wined and dined him and laced the guys' drink with acid and the guy tripped out not knowing what was in his drink.....they were signed later after that apparently
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Post by R Dale on Dec 5, 2006 13:41:03 GMT -5
That Record Company Exec was a terrorist and Lemmy should be hung for treason for dosing him!
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Post by bcfreak on Dec 5, 2006 17:22:48 GMT -5
Wasn't Manowar those loin cloth guys? Man, they were terrible. I went to high school with a guy who would fight you over them. He has since apologized for making us listen to them. Sam Does Manowar sing like cavemen to? Some of these so called "metal" bands of today scream more than they sing, and you can't understand what they are singing (if you can call that singing) and all the high volume of these bands is quite pointless to me. I would like to see Blue Cheer and Black Sabbath on the same bill, that would be one hell of a show.
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Post by mr maltese on Dec 5, 2006 18:56:05 GMT -5
BC Freak
Yeah, their (Manowar) vocalist is a screamer - they're really just have bad music,......High Volume is good when it is backed by good songs and good bands with good singers,...like Blue Cheer, AC/DC, Humble Pie etc. etc.
I know Feedback Lourde would love to see Cheer and Sabbath play together
Also one more note on Lemmy from Motorhead - he was a roadie for a brief period for Jimi Hendrix
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Post by FeedbackLourde on Dec 5, 2006 21:17:00 GMT -5
Uh guys.....Manowar was a joke band! So was Venom. So was Spinal Tap & Strange Fruit though those 2 were good. AND...that guy you see in the department store nowadays in the red suit isn't really Santa Clause.
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