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Post by bcfreak on Dec 8, 2006 19:39:15 GMT -5
True, but the MC5 were very passionate in what they believed in, and it shows in the high energy they put in their songs. So Babylon, what wierd things did Iggy do on stage on that night you saw them?
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Post by mr maltese on Dec 8, 2006 20:05:52 GMT -5
www.last.fm/user/emergingsynergy/journal/2006/08/28/216017/hey, I just found this article by a guy who saw Blue Cheer in 1968 at the Miami Pop Festival...I believe this was the gig that both BC and Hendrix were on the bill along with some others....here is his very cool recollection he had of that show enjoy
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Post by FeedbackLourde on Dec 9, 2006 9:29:53 GMT -5
Mr. Malese,
Did you ever see any pictures of BC playing at the Miami Pop Fest? If so, do you know who I can beat up for some?
I saw pictures of that gig once and Dickie's pants were louder than any of the above mentioned bands put together.
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Post by babylon on Dec 9, 2006 17:18:01 GMT -5
bcfreak wrote: "True, but the MC5 were very passionate in what they believed in, and it shows in the high energy they put in their songs. So Babylon, what weird things did Iggy do on stage on that night you saw them?" I think John Sinclair, MC5's manager, was really the promoter of the politics and used it as a way to distinguish the band - as if they needed anything other than themselves!! But, yeah, they were rabid in their devotion to putting out the 'revolutionary' bombastic message. One of my memories of the night that sticks out in my mind was Rob's afro, the f#@king thing was about six stories high and so was he and the rest of the band! One of the best 'in your face' hard rocking bands to ever shake sweat on an audience. As far as Iggy's performance - well, just being the way he was - like a mental patient off his meds, was weird enough. But, I loved the raw proto-punk three chord thrash and ear piercing leads that brother Ron Asheton churned out. Iggy threw himself around like a rag doll, crawled around like a snake, stage dived into the crowd (nobody did that back then), did several back flips, dived off Ron's amp stack onto the wooden stage floor (OK, maybe he did take his"meds') and generally assaulted his guitar players with the mike stand. All without skipping a beat, of course, but still feeling dangerous, out of control and not contrived like the tamper proof MTV style crap you see today. Both of these bands were into the concept of performance anarchy - way before it came out of the UK as the Sex Pistols. They blazed the trail and most who followed parished! Not sure I could have survived the gig with these guys and Blue Cheer!! But, I'd love to hop in a time machine and find out.
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Post by bcfreak on Dec 9, 2006 18:31:18 GMT -5
Goldy of Steppewolf had an afro to but not as big as Rob Tyner's. Blue Cheer MC5 and The Stooges created an new style of music and influenced a lot of bands decades later.
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Post by babylon on Dec 11, 2006 22:34:34 GMT -5
I guess now that BC is no longer on tour, we're gonna need more lists! ;D
Hey, Eric - what where the recording sessions for 'Outsideinside' like?
How did they record stuff outside and still get that great sound.
As much as I love the first LP - that second one, for me, is their best.
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Post by 56buzz on Dec 12, 2006 10:45:14 GMT -5
babylon, I agree with you about "outside inside" I think it was everything a 2nd lp should have been...it showed a progression in song writing and musicianship, but held true to the psychedelia of "Vincebus" it also provided a decent amount of "thud" ....I don't think anything is as purely brutal as "Vincebus" but that recording is a badge of honor for that band...it was so different even for the "expanded thinking" of the times...
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Post by sam on Dec 12, 2006 10:57:33 GMT -5
I will agree that the second album is their best. I would have like to have been there when the outside portion was recorded. Wonder if any air raid sirens went off that day?
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Post by babylon on Dec 12, 2006 23:42:28 GMT -5
sam wrote: "Wonder if any air raid sirens went off that day?"
LOL! ;D
No joke, and I bet any low flying birds within a square mile were knocked out of the sky by the sound waves! Of course, you don't hear any airplanes because they would have been drowned out by the mighty cheer.
On a serious note - it's great to see on amazon.com how many people have written reviews praising 'outsideinside'. I'll never forget seeing that trippy cover art for the first time and opening up the tri-fold, but, it was when it hit the turn table that my life would never be the same!
BTW - I noticed that Amazon.com is selling a live album by 'Oxford Circle' recorded in Avalon (circa 1966) that has Paul Whaley and Gary Yoder on it.
Anybody heard it?
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Post by bcfreak on Dec 13, 2006 8:12:07 GMT -5
From what I read from the tour page on their web site, ships from 12 miles away could here them, when they were recording from Pier 57 in New York. Now thats LOUD! ;D
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Post by 56buzz on Dec 13, 2006 10:12:17 GMT -5
That Oxford Circle cd has been out a few years now, it's mostly a live recording from the Avalon Ballroom with several studio tracks that were out on 45's...all in all it's cool. They sound very influenced by the British scene (very Yardbirds), as well as the California music style of the day. I guess it's more for completists who want everything in the BC lineage. But they were a decent band for the time, and Whaley is awesome...plus I believe he SINGS a track!!!
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Post by FeedbackLourde on Dec 13, 2006 12:05:48 GMT -5
Just for the record, a special I saw last night on Motorhead said that they once played at 135,000 decibels and made the GBOWW. Eddie Clark said that he read a quote from Angus Young stating that Motorhead was the only band louder than AC/DC. Eric, would you or Doug Tracy happen to know that most amount of Decibels the Cheer ever used? I'm sure they were a lot louder than all these other bands.
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Post by mr maltese on Dec 13, 2006 14:39:11 GMT -5
I am sorry I missed that yesterday about Motorhead…hopefully it will be repeated again and or maybe a link of it will be available online,…this is why I want to do a top ten documentary on this subject,…this is something that really hasn’t been touched upon,….I want Blue Cheer to be the main feature band of this whole thing,….. I know AC/DC’s pa that they used in 1983 ,85,86 and ’88 was around 75,000 watts (indoor arenas) Below is a link showing the PA System that Manowar used with all the specs..... nexo-sa.com/asp/news/newspage.asp?id=32What we have to do is get BC to do a show or several shows and go through a system like the one in the link above and just destroy everyone for the record so it gets into the GBOWR because we all know on this board who is boss ;D The Alpha and Omega
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Post by frankenpint on Dec 13, 2006 17:09:47 GMT -5
Maltese, you are starting to sound a lot like Babylon now....
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Post by dr brown on Dec 13, 2006 18:23:31 GMT -5
I think you mean 135 decibels. I would imagine the earth exploding wouldn't even be 135,000 decibels! The only time I ever measured levels at a concert was at the Allman Brothers back when they were fucking loud (about 7 years ago). it was 116 dB if you were in the third row, which I think is over the legal limit. If you realize that every 3db is doubling the volume, 135 dB is just sick. I'd imagine it would just sound like dogshit...
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