New website. Do you wanna contribute?

[FeedbackLourde]

Peace out...

[Eric Albronda]

Please give the new site a chance to develop.
As recently mentioned Blue Cheer needs heart felt help and the
new site will offer a much needed upgrade for the band .
Doug has the means of production and the will to carry it out.
Please give him a try, he needs your support .
Remember , the old site will be available for those that want the historical overview and proper credits will remain starting with Frank Oberlaender .
Duck and therefore Blue Cheer , has agreed to Doug's terms and remember
all of the financial outlay will be on Doug until circumstances merit otherwise-------I consider this a godsend and I plan on supporting this effort 100%.
FeedbackLourd you have contributed so much to the board and to Blue Cheer and as far as I can tell your role will only be supported by this new effort and nothing will change with respect to your position , please give this a try and have patience .
Nothing ventured nothing gained --
Anything to help Blue Cheer get over the hump is indicated at this point .
Please give support for this effort .

Thank you
Eric

[mr maltese]

With all due respect Eric I love all your posts they are intelligent, articulate and love reading about the bands’ experiences through your eyes from that time period when you
were heavily involved with them in the 60’s but I unfortunately have to disagree with you on this one,…reason being is that you are looking at this from a managerial perspective which I understand fully but folks like Feedback Lourde and myself are looking at it from a fan perspective in which the outlook on this issue is going to be somewhat different.

I see this is as a business move and I being a drummer/songwriter have struggled with this my whole life playing in different bands which is the business perspective of the music industry, to me music will always be an art & to me the art part of it will always come before the business part,….the business is what eventually killed people like Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Jim Morrison…..I still believe that a band like BC is not just in it for the money and that they are playing to their fan base that is already out there,….yes, once again everyone needs money in order to live and eat I’m not in denial of that however things are already happening for the band naturally without having to “reach out” to new audiences as Doug indicated in the earlier post – as I said before if the folks out there who love good music and appreciate a band like BC they will seek out a band like them on their own – so to me I feel that it’s unnecessary to have to create a whole other website while there already is a very good one that has all the info that everyone needs to know about the band besides, BC will already sell merch at the concert venues where they play on their tour. There is already no need to have the 1% & others to contribute to a new website when the band is already getting its heartfelt help in my humble opinion . I know you stated that nothing would change in regards to Feedback Lourdes and my position on the matter and maybe I’m being a bit paranoid or overprotective of a band that I really love please understand though why we feel so strongly on this

Once again Eric I hope that you understand coming from my perspective and although you may disagree with it I certainly hope you do not take it personal in any way
because I absolutely have very high regard for you and enjoy reading all your posts on here I just feel I needed to address this point of view

Best Always,

Maltese

[rowenafair]

you guys need to get your heads out of your asses. how do you expect a band to keep going without growing? do you think the cheer want to play to the same diehard fans ONLY and FOREVER? and play the same handful of songs night in and night out? or perhaps you don't want to see them very often because they can't afford the trip? nobody is asking them to sell out. it takes money to keep the show on the road. these are premier musicians who have earned the right to play the blues or whatever they want to! if the band's fans don't help them do it their way then who? noone's trying to turn them into britney spears here...

[mr maltese]

you guys need to get your heads out of your asses. how do you expect a band to keep going without growing? do you think the cheer want to play to the same diehard fans ONLY and FOREVER? and play the same handful of songs night in and night out? or perhaps you don't want to see them very often because they can't afford the trip? nobody is asking them to sell out. it takes money to keep the show on the road. these are premier musicians who have earned the right to play the blues or whatever they want to! if the band's fans don't help them do it their way then who? noone's trying to turn them into britney spears here...

First of all, I never said anything about them playing the same handful of songs
all of the time I would actually LOVE to hear them perform some of the other many songs that they could include into their set Second, as I indicated already I said yes, everyone needs money in order to eat,…the fact of the matter is a lot of bands not only BC are struggling these days it’s unfortunate that anyone should be able to make money doing exactly what they want but you know as well as I it doesn’t always work that way especially in the music business but they’re(BC) not alone in this respect – surely I want to see them prosper and many here on this board do however you also want them to maintain their dignity as well( which I’m confident that they will no matter what) – but a band shouldn’t have to change just in order to make extra dough either and I’m sorry I’ve seen it happen to bands in the past although I don’t think it would ever happen to these guys –Thirdly we are all trying to contribute in our own way in helping the band out in more ways than you know hey, ultimately the band is going to do what it needs to but I’m not going hold back my feelings on the matter just because the Status Quo says different

[rowenafair]

sorry if i was a bit blunt. but once again, no one is trying to change the band. it tends to be record companies who put that kind of pressure on. the existing site(s) are staying where they are, no? and all i meant about the handful of songs is its very hard to stay on the road and keep a day job going, and if the merchandise they already have is available to a wider audience that can only help them have time to write new stuff, stay on the road and not be dependent on the record company who hasn't even managed to get the album into borders yet. it does seem a little like you hold to the romantic notion that integrity= no marketing. but if the marketing comes from the band through the site WHATS THE PROBLEM?

[FeedbackLourde]

I think the motive should be to increase the band's promotion to reach ANYONE who is into cool music. Targeting a specific age group is limiting and stupid. Why would a younger crowd be anymore receptive than an ageing hippie? I've come across a lot of "older" people who, largely due to lack of computer literacy, still didn't know that Blue Cheer had been back full force for the last few years. BUT now that they know, they are planning to attend upcoming shows.

I have no fear at all of this band selling out. Look what happened in the 80’s when they were on Megaforce. Despite all the overproduction and record company attempt to give them a “metallic” sound and a glam-band image, the BEAST still turned out to be an amazingly kickass album. I don’t think Blue Cheer could suck if they tried.
I guess that lot of the aversion to the words "bring in a new & younger crowd" comes from the effects we all witnessed Ozzfest had on Black Sabbath. It made that band cater to the mentality of the “new metal” crowd and turned them into a cliché. No wonder the Dio version of Sabbath got back together and is now playing under a different name.

So let’s try out the new site. The band has nothing to lose. Just, as Gypsy Ball said, do it carefully. Now that me & Maltese gave our $1.50, why don’t the rest of you give your 2 cents to Doug?

And Eric, I’m just expressing my opinions/concerns. I could care less about my status. I know what my contributions to this scene are.

[FeedbackLourde]

All this heated discussion here is actually not a bad thing. At the very least, it shows that we are all passionate about BC what happens to them and care a lot about our scene. We may butt heads a bit but it takes strong minded people to come up with good ideas....

[rowenafaire]

exactly. i am neither new nor young nor very computer literate but i wouldn't have known BC were around were it not for a habit of cruising youtube and other music sites...and if there's an affordable way of driving traffic to the site (which could link to the other sites) ..

[ddye]

admin said:

All this heated discussion here is actually not a bad thing. At the very least, it shows that we are all passionate about BC what happens to them and care a lot about our scene. We may butt heads a bit but it takes strong minded people to come up with good ideas....

I agree, and I've gotta say, that without passionate guys like you, we wouldn't even be DISCUSSING Blue Cheer, much less new promo for them.

By the way, I have noticed that current pictures of Paul are extremely rare, would anyone have a picture they'd like to contribute? The best one I can find is the one on the inside of the Live Bootleg CD. Paul seems to love hiding behind his cymbals when there's a camera around...

Doug

[Eric Albronda]

Fbl---You may not "care about your status" ( my word was Position) with Blue Cheer but I care about your position and hope you continue to contribute in the great manner which you have already.
Eric

[gypsyball]

How's the planning stage going for the new website Ddye?

[Terence Belcher]

WOW! Yet another deep, introspective post from everyones favorite thinker, Gyspsball!!

[Festooned Piglips]

Here is the best BC Related link that I know of that you can add to your new site:
www.guitargod.com

[ddye]

Oh, you must be the Randy Holden guy I've heard so much about!

Doug

Festooned said:

Here is the best BC Related link that I know of that you can add to your new site:
www.guitargod.com