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Post by Iceberg on May 30, 2008 8:55:21 GMT -5
Well you have to admit Randy is a guitar god and gods do have special powers, eh?,….
So there is power and influence to shut things down when it concerns a guitar god that cannot be denied and the god that he is can deny whenever deemed necessary
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Post by Insomnia Sam on Jun 3, 2008 11:56:32 GMT -5
Didn`t Metallica write a song about Randy Holden - `The God That Failed`.
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Post by gypsyball on Jun 5, 2008 12:58:07 GMT -5
Gypsyball, Please send me a private message with thw address you want the cd sent and I'll let you know where to send payment. Hell..since you are being so generous, I'll throw in a bonus track..Holden's version of All Along the Watchtower. We may as well sock it to RobbNoxious too... WHAT THE F*CK?!?! That version of "all along the watchtower" has never been released to the public, so you sir have an ILLEGAL copy of an unauthorized song. You guys....you guys cannot be true Blue Cheer fans. With "fans" like you guys, who needs enemies? That`s alright though; the proper authorities will be hearing about this! clang clang go the JAIL GUITAR DOORS!!!!!!!!!!!! Listened to All Along The Watchtower, and I have to say Jimi Hendrix's version is a whole lot better, than Holdens version. As for the Holden gig with Blue Cheer, he is not as good as Leigh Stephen was with Blue Cheer, and deffantly not as good as Duck is today. However, I was impressed by his playing on Babylon. He did better than Leigh on that song, very bluesy and tight. I didn't like his playing on Gypsy Ball, it was not as powerful as what Leigh did in the studio version. Dickie and Paul was palying well, though not what I would call in top form, but at least from what I heard, they weren't puking on stage, as they did in some of gigs, that I read about. Overall the show is alright, but no where near the madness, when Leigh was in the band. Set list, Just A Little Bit, Out of Focus, Unknown tune with Randy singing, Parchment Farm, Peace Of Mind, Gypsy Ball, The Hunter, Summertime Blues, guitar solo (tape runs out). |
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Post by Terence Belcher on Jun 5, 2008 13:08:17 GMT -5
What the fuck are you moaning about? Be realistic! Something like this is never likely to crop up again. Why are you comparing Randy with Leigh? Have you ever heard Leigh playing live in his heydey with BC? And what`s with Gypsy Ball, Gypsy Ball? It`s gotta be a gem just to have a BC recording with that on it, as well as Peace of Mind, no matter what the quality is. Huh! Some people will never be fucking pleased with anything that is thrown their way. Get a life, asshole!
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Post by rowen a ferry on Jun 5, 2008 13:33:47 GMT -5
no you get a life, moaning minnie, he's expressing his opinion and we are all entitled to that...
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Post by Terence Belcher on Jun 5, 2008 19:23:09 GMT -5
At least I have something constructive to say. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as you say. Well, I`m making mine. What is your opinion on Gypsy Ball`s post? So far you have only criticised my response to his post.
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Post by GypsieBall on Jun 5, 2008 19:32:34 GMT -5
yet another USELESS post from TB  |
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Post by rowen a ferri on Jun 5, 2008 21:57:28 GMT -5
at the risk of repeating myself, he was expressing his opinion of the recording. he is entitled to think leigh was better than randy, and so on...he wasn't knocking anything, or calling anyone asshole for having an opinion. i haven't heard the thing so i'm not going to argue with his impressions or his taste! personally what i have heard of holden doesn't grab me, i LOVED the LDS phase of blue cheer, and i rate duck too...but like i said, i have no opinion on this gig/ recording cause i haven't heard it. anything else you want to bicker about?
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Post by riffraff on Jun 6, 2008 19:36:13 GMT -5
"Listened to All Along The Watchtower, and I have to say Jimi Hendrix's version is a whole lot better, than Holdens version."
Keep in mind, Randy was in his new studio and decided to see what it could do. He started playing some notes and it brought to his mind All Along the Watchtower. So he continued playing to see what would come out. So this is a first take, no rehearsals. It was never meant to be distributed in this form. I remember he was trying to improve on the drums and worked on it for awhile and then gave up on it. This is another reason why musicians get upset with bootlegs. They have no control over the content or quality and then someone gets a hold of it , listens to it , trashes it and then broadcasts it all over the place....
I remember hearing it at the interview and was struck by his vocal....
Awaiting the officially sanctioned release!
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Post by riffraff on Jun 6, 2008 19:41:18 GMT -5
"Overall the show is alright, but no where near the madness, when Leigh was in the band."
Careful, now......you are talking about the Holy Grail of Blue Cheerdom!
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Post by riffraff on Jun 6, 2008 19:47:02 GMT -5
" BUT there actually was in fact a recording on Sugmegs that featured Randy Holden....a live BC show of them in Amsterdam on their first European tour. I'm glad I downloaded it when I did because when I burned it to disk 2 days later and went attempted to go back to sugmegs to get the liner notes it was down!!! "
You got me, FBL. I thought you were pulling our legs on this one. Great find! Gotta wonder about the timing. Whoever has the original should approach Randy Holden with it. Although in this space and time, he is probably more interested in his current work and music. But he may be able to say if that was a good night or not. If it was representative of their gigs at the time. and he will probably be able to fill in on the missing material.
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Post by Kissass on Jun 6, 2008 19:58:38 GMT -5
"Listened to All Along The Watchtower, and I have to say Jimi Hendrix's version is a whole lot better, than Holdens version." I remember hearing it at the interview and was struck by his vocal.... How could you have possibly heard it with all the ass kissing that Robbnoxious was doing???!!! |
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Post by riffraff on Jun 6, 2008 22:52:59 GMT -5
Man, it was tough....I mean only a couple of seconds....
That was real uncomfortable sitting off-mike /air.....I thought Robb Noxious was going to cover new ground and all he did was go over the same old stuff and kiss ass...
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Post by FeedbackLourde on Jun 7, 2008 2:08:53 GMT -5
Whoever has the original should approach Randy Holden with it. Although in this space and time, he is probably more interested in his current work and music. But he may be able to say if that was a good night or not. If it was representative of their gigs at the time. and he will probably be able to fill in on the missing material. And why should it be Randy? Aren't Dickie & Paul qualified to say whether or not the gig was a good one? And being that they are 2/3rds of the musicians on that tape, are still 2/3rds of the musicians in Blue Cheer, and actually own the name of the band (well Dickie does anyway), wouldn't it be more appropriate for whoever has the master to approach them? Why is it that you Randy afficianados feel you have to share his view that everything evolves around him? This is a BC tape, not a Lucifer gig.....And you even state yourself that in this point in time, he wouldn't be into it anyway.... |
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Post by riffraff on Jun 7, 2008 9:34:24 GMT -5
"And why should it be Randy? Aren't Dickie & Paul qualified to say whether or not the gig was a good one? And being that they are 2/3rds of the musicians on that tape, are still 2/3rds of the musicians in Blue Cheer, and actually own the name of the band (well Dickie does anyway), wouldn't it be more appropriate for whoever has the master to approach them?"
You are quite right on both counts. It is just that when talking with Dickie, he keeps emphasizing that when playing with Randy, it is all thought out ahead by Randy and the interaction part which the present band has with Duck did not exist. I mentioned Randy also, because I was thinking of who would do the remastering. Dickie and Paul would never be involved with that. Duck would, but he is not in on this gig so he would take a pass, I assume. But, yeah, Dickie and Paul can determine if it was a good night or a representative night of that tour. I wouldn't be surprised if either of them contacted Randy if they had the tape and wanted to do something with it. It is afterall a record of the band 's history and should be archived and treated as aomething important to the band. They should make it known that they are interested in the tape and hope to recover the original from the collector. That is after all what started the DVD release of How the West was Won when someone dropped off a recording at Jimmy Page's home.
So you did well FBL to retrieve this recording for the band. Let's see what they do with it...
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